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I’ve seen a lot seed banks do this with labels. It isn’t always the breeder.
Btw, if you look at the next pic on IG with a picture of packs, you’ll find he did in fact confirm it. (noticed your irate inquisition on IG and doubt you’ll get a response)
Once again, as James said, it had been posted that the all mothers used will always be the Corey cut unless its specified on the pack the Guava was used.

This is what prompted my question to JJ in the first place.
The only place I’ve read about this strain having the parents switched around was here on page 145/146.
I’d read the same thing James did on ICMag more than once. I always assumed they were the same due to the lineage printed in exact order. The confusion for me, came straight from this thread. NOT Top Dawg.

I’m well aware of how many versions of Star Dawg there are. I have a few of those packs. JJ is known for changing out Star Dawg males. not the females.
Sometime JJ put names and lineage sometimes it’s just names. Some lineages have multiple cuts of the same lineage. Each cut is a different pheno. Each pheno will match up slightly differently. So it can say stardawg-Corey-Guava yes they’re all stardawg but they’re not the exact same and seeds with each of them with the identical male should express slightly different offspring. One might produce more weight but not smell as good one might have the best smell and produce less and the third might hit on both weight and smell. Then as I said earlier JJ is notorious for different males. So he could hit all three with 3 different males with the same exact lineage. Which on paper would look the same. But that doesn’t mean the seeds will produce the same. One pheno might produce stable offspring and the other two might not. Changing the name surely leads the buyer to think there’s a difference. YES I get it TD is a bunch of inbreeding. But each tweak is meant to change it slightly for the better. I’m not mad I’m just pointing out what I think is common sense. Same mom and same pop SHOULD equal the same exact strain name! Besides that JJ made 4 different stardawgs ALL with different males. Each is noted for DIFFERENT traits even though it’s the same exact mom and the 4 fathers were from the same seed stock. So with TD if I see 3 strain names with the same lineage. I’m expecting they’re different phenos being used as parent or parents. Where JJ is expecting a slightly different result. With any other breeder I wouldn’t be saying this. But with JJ keeping males isn’t a strong suit.
Because JJ is notorious for not keeping males. And when lineage show different mothers. Totally different offspring is possible. That is my point. If their lineage was wrote identical that would/SHOULD mean the strain name is IDENTICAL! I wouldn’t have bought them. Stardawg and Stardawg Corey shouldn’t be identical but yes from the same stock. Add to that as I said. JJ is notorious for not keeping males.

JJ himself (including MoneyMike) said on ICmag he uses his Corey cut for all moms in his crosses (unless the Guava is specified)
None of the seedbank I listed said “different parents were used”. You made that claim a few pages back and then again today on IG. Not sure where you buy your TD but maybe take it up with them if they’re rearranging lineage on packs.

I didn’t post this info to start a bunch of drama or to hate on Top Dawg. It was to help clear up the confusion started a few pages back. Sorry you’re so upset by it *SMH* ​

Sometime JJ put names and lineage sometimes it’s just names. Some lineages have multiple cuts of the same lineage. Each cut is a different pheno. Each pheno will match up slightly differently. So it can say stardawg-Corey-Guava yes they’re all stardawg but they’re not the exact same and seeds with each of them with the identical male should express slightly different offspring. One might produce more weight but not smell as good one might have the best smell and produce less and the third might hit on both weight and smell. Then as I said earlier JJ is notorious for different males. So he could hit all three with 3 different males with the same exact lineage. Which on paper would look the same. But that doesn’t mean the seeds will produce the same. One pheno might produce stable offspring and the other two might not. Changing the name surely leads the buyer to think there’s a difference. YES I get it TD is a bunch of inbreeding. But each tweak is meant to change it slightly for the better. I’m not mad I’m just pointing out what I think is common sense. Same mom and same pop SHOULD equal the same exact strain name! Besides that JJ made 4 different stardawgs ALL with different males. Each is noted for DIFFERENT traits even though it’s the same exact mom and the 4 fathers were from the same seed stock. So with TD if I see 3 strain names with the same lineage. I’m expecting they’re different phenos being used as parent or parents. Where JJ is expecting a slightly different result. With any other breeder I wouldn’t be saying this. But with JJ keeping males isn’t a strong suit.

If you wanted different strains, why pick 3 strains with the same parents used? Most of their gear is chem/diesel back-crosses or crossed to elite clones. I…